键盘侠丨58％的球员认为乔丹是GOAT！球迷：乔丹永远最伟大

　　据Bleacher Report报道，The Athletic对联盟30支球队108名现役球员进行了匿名调查，而其中一个问题就是谁是历史上最伟大的球员？一共投出了103票。迈克尔-乔丹得到58.3%的选票，詹姆斯-詹姆斯得到了33%的选票！让我们来看看球迷们对此作何评价！

　　

　　Most people in the NBA won’t say LeBron because he’s playing but watch in 20 years when you ask this same question.

　　在NBA的大多数人不会说詹姆斯，因为他还在打球，但等20年后，当你再问这个问题时，情况会不同。

　　in 20 years losing 6 finals will be even more of a sore thumb than it is now

　　history books won’t mention the excuses Bron fans give him now, all they will know is he went 4 for 10 in the finals

　　this is why “rings matter” is real. its the only transitional stat in the modern era

　　20年后，输掉6次总决赛会比现在更令人痛心。 历史书不会提到现在詹姆斯粉丝给他的借口，他们只会知道他在总决赛的战绩是4胜10负。 这就是为什么“戒指很重要”的真实原因。这是现代篮球唯一的过渡性数据。

　　Cap x Cap = Cap

　　They still talk about how many rings and finals bill Russell went too and I guarantee you 50 years from now they’ll still talk about how Kevin Durant lost in the playoffs to Golden State and then joins the 73-9 Team to win 2 unearned titles.

　　虚张声势x虚张声势=虚张声势

　　他们仍然在谈论比尔·拉塞尔（Bill Russell）获得的戒指和进入的总决赛次数，我敢保证50年后，他们还会谈论凯文·杜兰特（Kevin Durant）在季后赛中输给金州勇士队，然后加入73-9的球队赢得两个不公平的冠军。

　　

　　Your statement is why MJ himself doesn’t agree with being called the GOAT. You have to give flowers to what came before. It’s just the nature of basketball

　　你的说法正是为什么乔丹本人不同意被称为历史最佳的原因。你必须尊重先来的人。这就是篮球的本质。

　　When Lebron is gone from memory an it’s just his longevity that separates him, he’ll start to fall down the list like Kobe did. I still think it’s MJ, Kobe, Bron at 1,2,3

　　当詹姆斯的名字逐渐被人们遗忘，只剩下他的比赛时间记录让他脱颖而出时，他会像科比一样在榜单上滑落。我仍然认为乔丹、科比、詹姆斯分列前三名。

　　This.

　　Sadly it happens to many players. Once retired and younger fans start getting into the nba who never saw him play, you will see this.

　　Magic, Bird, Kobe, Duncan, Moses, Dr.J are all guys i saw play that i have seen slowly get forgotten by new generation of fans.

　　就是这样。 不幸的是，这种情况发生在很多球员身上。一旦退役，年轻球迷开始关注NBA，但从未看过他们比赛，你就会看到这种情况。

　　魔术师、伯德、科比、邓肯、摩西马龙、J博士都是我看过比赛的球员，我看到他们慢慢被新一代球迷遗忘。

　　

　　In 20 years it will still be MJ. Stop the madness with LeBron. He's great but not a legend. Never will be.

　　20年后，依然会是乔丹。停止用詹姆斯疯狂比较。他很伟大，但不是传奇。永远都不会。

　　I’ve been fortunate enough to witness both their careers, MJ always the GOAT to me

　　我很幸运能够见证他们两人的职业生涯，对我来说，乔丹永远是最伟大的。

　　The current players aren’t thinking for themselves they being pressured into keeping MJ legacy alive… we all know who the KING is

　　现役球员并没有独立思考，他们受到压力要维护乔丹的传奇地位...我们都知道谁是真正的王。

　　

　　If someone is the goat he would transcend beyond sports he would be like a household name to every face of the planet. His impact to the pop culture without forcing it to you. &MJ did that until now you are still talking about him his sneaker sells more than nba players combined

　　如果一个人是历史最佳，他将超越体育，成为地球上每个人的家喻户晓的名字。他对流行文化的影响，不需要强加给你。乔丹至今仍然做到了这一点，你们还在谈论他，他的球鞋销量比NBA球员加起来还要多。

　　Errbody friends in the league nowadays… and they’d want to make their own era/generation look better. Where at a point where most of the league has never seen mj play. Where at a point where most of the players grew up with bron as their favorite player/ best in the world.

　　现在的联盟里，每个人都是朋友...他们想让自己的时代/代际表现得更好。现在大多数联盟里的球员从未看过乔丹比赛。大多数球员在成长过程中把詹姆斯视为自己最喜欢的球员/世界上最好的球员。

　　Speaking for all Lebron fans. We know more about basketball than NBA players so that means Lebron is the goat. We may struggle to make offhand layups but all Lebron fans are credible sources.

　　代表所有詹姆斯球迷说话。我们比NBA球员更了解篮球，所以这意味着詹姆斯是历史最佳。我们可能很难能够随意上篮，但所有詹姆斯的球迷都是可靠的消息来源。

　　

　　MJ is arguably “greater”.

　　But there’s no denying that Lebron is easily the all around BETTER basketball player.

　　乔丹可以说是“更伟大的”。 但是无可否认，詹姆斯很明显是更全面的篮球运动员。

　　But in the 90s physical confrontation and scoring is much harder than now

　　但在90年代，身体对抗和得分比现在要困难得多。

　　And no one in the 90s is stopping the freak athlete that was peak Lebron James. He's getting his in any era.

　　而在90年代，没有人能阻止詹姆斯·詹姆斯这样的巅峰运动员。他在任何时代都能得到他想要的。

　　

　　I like players who have that killer instinct. Both are great player in their own right. However, given one game to win it all I'm taking MJ every time.

　　我喜欢具有杀手本能的球员。他们俩都是各自领域的伟大球员。然而，在要赢得决定性比赛时，我每次都会选择乔丹。

　　This is the answer that seperates them. Both amazing players. This is the difference.

　　这是区分他们的答案。两个都是出色的球员。这就是差异。

　　current players just hate lebron for some reason man

　　现役球员出于某种原因讨厌詹姆斯。

　　

　　So if LeBron gets higher vote, does that mean “current players just hate MJ for some reason man”?

　　那么，如果詹姆斯得票更高，那是否意味着“现役球员出于某种原因讨厌乔丹”？

　　No it’s just the avg age in the NBA is 26 years old so most of them never actually watched MJ play and are just picking him over LeBron because they dislike him most likely.

　　不，只是因为NBA的平均年龄是26岁，所以他们中的大多数人实际上从未看过乔丹比赛，他们只是因为很可能不喜欢詹姆斯而选择乔丹。

　　

　　The way I see it, a goat needs to be able to do every type of thing in basketball, mj lacked the 3 point shot ability, so that’s rlly a main factor for me, I’ve seen Lebron do every kind of thing in basketball, mj ig but if he were to play now, idk what he would do differently

　　在我看来，历史最佳需要能够在篮球上做到各种类型的事情，乔丹缺乏三分球能力，这对我来说是一个很大的因素，我看过詹姆斯在篮球上做每一种事情，乔丹在现在的比赛中，我不知道他会做什么不同的事情。

　　LeBron got outplayed by a bench player in the Finals during his prime years... Automatically eliminated from GOAT consideration.

　　詹姆斯在他的巅峰时期，在总决赛中被替补球员压制得无法发挥...自动被排除在历史最佳的考虑范围之外。

　　

　　Oh come on, it’s not like that hasn’t happened at least once to every player

　　哦，拜托，请别这么说，这种情况对每个球员来说至少都发生过一次。

　　Never happened to Jordan in the Finals... Hell, Jordan was never outplayed for an entire playoff series by any bench player in his career.

　　乔丹在总决赛中从未被替补球员压制过...事实上，在他的整个职业生涯中，乔丹从未在整个季后赛系列赛被任何替补球员压制过。

　　

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